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Elizabeth and Jessica, those crazy twins

  • Mar. 14th, 2008 at 9:36 PM
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Who remembers reading the original Sweet Valley High paperback series?



In the first chapter of every book there was a quick recap/rundown on Elizabeth and Jessica and their family, including physical descriptions of them, many reprinted nearly verbatim from previous books in the series. The twins are described as golden-haired, blue-eyed and being "perfect" size 6s (note that last). As we all know, youth are highly impressionable, and these past 20 years I've been carrying size 6 in my subconscious as an ideal -- only recently have I actually become conscious of its origin.

What's interesting is that I now wear a size 6, but I don't feel "perfect." I feel mostly healthy, perhaps with a few unwanted bits of pudge I try vainly to conceal, but not remotely perfect. Ignoring the arguments against defining perfection in women's body shapes and sizes, which is a whole other debate, here's what I'm wondering now:

Were those bits intentionally thrown into the books to provide teenage girls with a healthier standard? Clever.

Or were teenagers actually pleased as punch to be a size 6 in the mid-1980s? If that's the case, comparing them with today's fashion-conscious teenagers and, indeed, most young actresses (both of whom make me feel slightly ill), things have changed.

[I disliked having to use arbitrary terms like perfect, standard and ideal in this post, but I couldn't find a way to avoid it.]

Comments

[info]grettacook wrote:
Mar. 15th, 2008 04:43 am (UTC)
Not only did I read all of the Sweet Valley High books, I also read Sweet Valley Twins and Sweet Valley University. I continued to read them even after I felt I was too old for them, and I felt so embarrassed about it that when I was checking them out from the library, I made a point of explaining to the librarian that they were "for a younger friend."

I've always wondered what the librarian made of that, and now I have a chance to find out, kind of. Hey, Librarian? Do your library users ever make unprovoked defensive statements about the books they're checking out? And what do you think when they do?

But all of that is beside the point. You're right -- I've always held size six in my head as an ideal as well, and I think I got it the same place you did. In my own personal ups and downs with weight, I have been honestly thrilled with size six (and a little frightened when I was accidentally size four for a few weeks) and pretty OK with size eight.

In a more recent example of popular culture dictating what size we should all be, in the Devil Wears Prada, the main character is a six and is thought of as "fat" by her co-workers - but her co-workers are painted as raving lunatics and it's clear the movie wants us to think six is actually a great size. At the very end, though, we find out that the protagonist has gone a little over to the loony side when she admits to dropping to size four.

I have no idea what teenagers were shooting for in the 80's. I hope someone who remembers chimes in.
[info]ryner wrote:
Mar. 17th, 2008 01:52 am (UTC)
First, in honesty I have to disclaim actual librarianship. I do somewhat frequently get to have interactions with the public and their books, though. Nowadays our express checkout machines provide an aspect of privacy I bet you'd have appreciated. :)

I have to say I can't recall ever hearing anyone commenting on their materials in that way -- not even the man in his 70s checking out romance novels. I always expect him to say they're for his wife who couldn't come, but he doesn't. And I do really get the feeling they're his!

Thanks for your comment. It's kind of shocking how a few words in a book can still be influencing our psyches decades down the road.
(Anonymous) wrote:
Mar. 15th, 2008 01:23 pm (UTC)
Who could forget the Wakefield girls, with their matching lavalieres and their only physical difference the mole on Elizabeth's left shoulder?

I'm pretty sure size 6 was an ideal (not a subversive suggestion, sadly, given how many of those books I read) in those days. "Heroin chic" had not yet happened; if I recall correctly, a kind of glowing health was more "the look." Hard to remember who the "ideal girls" (models, stars considered hot) were at the time...statuesque Paulina Porizkova, maybe? Look at how Madonna's shrunk over the years, to the point where her head has started to look too big for her body, like a caricature. I remember ONE girl in my class who was a size zero, and how this was seen as a kind of freak occurrence--not attractive, a little bizarre. I remember being surprised that they even MADE clothes in a size zero.

I know I feel happiest when my jeans say size 6, though they more frequently say size 8.

--em from EP
[info]ryner wrote:
Mar. 17th, 2008 01:59 am (UTC)
I'm feeling more like an 8 myself today.

Part of why I couldn't enjoy 'Atonement' was finding it hard to stomach Keira Knightley's skeletal frame. She looked like she was suffering from some kind of emaciating disease and I kept expecting it to feature in the plotline. Alas.
[info]jeniferrobin wrote:
Mar. 15th, 2008 04:57 pm (UTC)
Or were teenagers actually pleased as punch to be a size 6 in the mid-1980s?


Yes. Size 6 was the thin ideal until the mid-1990s. Size 6 was thin, yet curvy, and allowed for boobs. Now the ideal is emaciated, prepubescent boy.

I remember Sweet Valley High well.
[info]cindylouwhom wrote:
Mar. 16th, 2008 05:21 pm (UTC)
I loved those books. Thought I always thought Elizabeth was more the ideal than Jessica because she was smart..;) I did honestly believe that a size 6 was the ideal. Lord help me I'm so far from that these days... three kids later I'd just be thrilled to be in single digits.
[info]ryner wrote:
Mar. 17th, 2008 02:15 am (UTC)
Reading all of these comments has been so interesting. I wonder how many other women out there lodged the number 6 permanently into their subconscious, based merely on a few short words in what essentially amounted to a big load of tween fluff.
[info]jeniferrobin wrote:
Mar. 17th, 2008 09:05 pm (UTC)
eh...I've weighed over 200lbs since 9th grade...so, like, 13/14. My weight's fluctuated between 200 and 265 since, and I've not worn less than a 14. It truly doesn't bother me, especially since I'm 5'10" and have a linebacker's build. In fact, if I weighed 160, I'd be 0% body fat, which is impossible. When I was on the Virginia Tech track and field team, I worked out a minimum of 3 hrs a day, 6 days a week, and still weighed 250. I'm at 215 now, wear a size 18/20 and look good, despite society saying otherwise. Moral of this comment: love the way you look regardless of the numbers!
[info]ryner wrote:
Mar. 17th, 2008 02:05 am (UTC)
Thanks for your comment! I didn't think I was mis-remembering fashion and body trends when I couldn't recall what I consider sickly-thin as the norm. Looking malnourished -- and, you're right, like a boy -- is a bizarre and questionable direction to be moving in terms of "beauty."

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